It would be great to have a lyrics page on here. I don't know how it sits with copyright issues as there are a number of songs based on trad stories and other old folf songs. It would be great to read what changes you've made in lyrics Jim from original versions. Plus my daughters fav song in the whole world is your Silver Dagger (despite it being tragic!) and I can't quite make out all the words when I sing it to her haha! :) http://www.jimmoray.co.uk/phorum/read.php?2,2668,2668#msg-2668 Tue, 18 Jun 2013 07:04:50 +0100 Phorum 5.2.7 http://www.jimmoray.co.uk/phorum/read.php?2,2668,2680#msg-2680 http://www.jimmoray.co.uk/phorum/read.php?2,2668,2680#msg-2680
iTunes meanwhile has a bonus track of the If It's True video. If we do vinyl (and I'd really like to do a small run, maybe in the autumn. Well see how it goes) then I'll put an exclusive bonus track on that too.

I'm quite happy to send out the missing tracks if anyone feels they missed out by buying in any particular format though. Hogeye Man is a bit of a joke though - it's not supposed to be serious, I was just having fun.

I think a songbook is unlikely right now, especially since I don't own the publishing on the first two albums. When I have more material to pick from along the lines of Lord Douglas or Hind Etin then maybe. I won't rule it out, but not just yet.]]> jimmoray The Forum Mon, 14 May 2012 11:04:33 +0100 http://www.jimmoray.co.uk/phorum/read.php?2,2668,2679#msg-2679 http://www.jimmoray.co.uk/phorum/read.php?2,2668,2679#msg-2679 -------------------------------------------------------
> What Ali said is mostly right but the "free"
> download was a Gift from Jim
> to all of us who paid the extra money to the In
> Modern History Pledge monthly
> download club.
> Hogeye Man was an extra special track for All of
> us who subscribed to this.

I'm not sure that's entirely correct... I have Hogeye Man as a download track, but I've never been a member of the In Modern History Pledge monthly download club (not having been aware of its existence until now). I am a tad confused about this, but I think I remember (though I have the memory span of a fish these days) that when buying Skulk from Jim's website when it was being released there was an option to purchase a download version of the album plus being sent the CD version when that was released a little later. Hogeye Man was then included with the download version of the album. I'm fairly convinced that's how I come to have the bonus track... I'm happy to be corrected if I'm even more confused than I think I am.]]> redpete The Forum Mon, 14 May 2012 10:05:10 +0100 http://www.jimmoray.co.uk/phorum/read.php?2,2668,2677#msg-2677 http://www.jimmoray.co.uk/phorum/read.php?2,2668,2677#msg-2677
What Ali said is mostly right but the "free" download was a Gift from Jim
to all of us who paid the extra money to the In Modern History Pledge monthly
download club.
Hogeye Man was an extra special track for All of us who subscribed to this.
I hope that helps and I`m sorry to have brought it up now. :-)

Peace,
Andrew.


PS

I wonder if I`m The Hogeye Man, Jim?




AltheFolker Wrote:
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> Windflower Wrote:
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> > Althe - Hogeye Man is a track which (I think)
> was
> > only available on the digital download version
> of
> > Skulk through Bandcamp, as I'm pretty sure it's
> > not on the physical album... I will stand
> > corrected if I'm wrong!
> >
> > Hope this helps!! Ali x
>
>
> And that's hardly fair! I was deliberately waiting
> to buy the CD when I see JM at Shrewsbury so I
> could get it personally signed! :(]]> Valentine The Forum Fri, 11 May 2012 17:17:49 +0100 http://www.jimmoray.co.uk/phorum/read.php?2,2668,2676#msg-2676 http://www.jimmoray.co.uk/phorum/read.php?2,2668,2676#msg-2676 -------------------------------------------------------
> Althe - Hogeye Man is a track which (I think) was
> only available on the digital download version of
> Skulk through Bandcamp, as I'm pretty sure it's
> not on the physical album... I will stand
> corrected if I'm wrong!
>
> Hope this helps!! Ali x


And that's hardly fair! I was deliberately waiting to buy the CD when I see JM at Shrewsbury so I could get it personally signed! :(]]> AltheFolker The Forum Fri, 11 May 2012 09:09:47 +0100 http://www.jimmoray.co.uk/phorum/read.php?2,2668,2675#msg-2675 http://www.jimmoray.co.uk/phorum/read.php?2,2668,2675#msg-2675 -------------------------------------------------------
> MATTG Wrote:
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>
> > I assume that it is oats & not Oates, a lyrics
> > section would certainly help with this one!
>
>
> Indeed. A friend of mine got very confused about
> the subject matter of Horkstowe Grange, having
> misheard John Bowlin as Jon Boden.

Haha.

One thing I'd been meaning to ask was whether there would be any chance of getting songbooks made? I've got 3 of the 4 Steve Knightley songbooks, and they're well made and invaluable. It would certainly help with a few of these questions, and various other ones about chords, etc.

Any chance of it, Mr. Moray?]]> AltheFolker The Forum Fri, 11 May 2012 09:05:22 +0100 http://www.jimmoray.co.uk/phorum/read.php?2,2668,2674#msg-2674 http://www.jimmoray.co.uk/phorum/read.php?2,2668,2674#msg-2674 -------------------------------------------------------

> I assume that it is oats & not Oates, a lyrics
> section would certainly help with this one!


Indeed. A friend of mine got very confused about the subject matter of Horkstowe Grange, having misheard John Bowlin as Jon Boden.]]> redpete The Forum Fri, 11 May 2012 09:01:32 +0100 http://www.jimmoray.co.uk/phorum/read.php?2,2668,2673#msg-2673 http://www.jimmoray.co.uk/phorum/read.php?2,2668,2673#msg-2673 -------------------------------------------------------
> At the moment, I'm trying to see if the song
> "Valentine" is a trad. or what. Or what the
> relevance of throwing oats against the vine is all
> about.

Given that we're dealing in folk music here, I would have thought that "throwing oats against the vine " was fairly self explanatory (and rather rude).

I assume that it is oats & not Oates, a lyrics section would certainly help with this one!

Apropos of nothing, I've just seen Jim performing at the Bristol Folk Festival as part of the Bristol Morris Men, both playing a squeezebox and doing some morris dancing, although not at the same time. Is there no end to the man's talents ?]]> MATTG The Forum Fri, 11 May 2012 00:56:04 +0100 http://www.jimmoray.co.uk/phorum/read.php?2,2668,2672#msg-2672 http://www.jimmoray.co.uk/phorum/read.php?2,2668,2672#msg-2672
Hope this helps!! Ali x]]> Windflower The Forum Thu, 10 May 2012 13:31:46 +0100 http://www.jimmoray.co.uk/phorum/read.php?2,2668,2671#msg-2671 http://www.jimmoray.co.uk/phorum/read.php?2,2668,2671#msg-2671
At the moment, I'm trying to see if the song "Valentine" is a trad. or what. Or what the relevance of throwing oats against the vine is all about.

Valentine, what is this "Hogeye Man" of which you speak? I must have missed that track. It's not on bandcamp is it?]]> AltheFolker The Forum Wed, 09 May 2012 22:32:57 +0100 http://www.jimmoray.co.uk/phorum/read.php?2,2668,2670#msg-2670 http://www.jimmoray.co.uk/phorum/read.php?2,2668,2670#msg-2670
And welcome to our little part of the Web. :-)
That is a great idea I think, I for one would love to see what
Jim changes from trad folf songs as well.
When I was speaking with Jim at the Cabbage Patch gig the other
month I foget to ask him what he was singing in one of my favourite
tracks on Skulk (And I do realise that I am most likely in a club of one)Hogeye Man
as it sounds different from the original version.
Excepting the Swear word of course. ;-)
Anyway I Love that song, can you just imaging Jim and the band on stage, Jim with Greeced
back hair and a Massave Quiff with he`s Guitar slung across he`s shoulder and doing an Elvis
or a Billy Fury whilst singing Hogeye Man.
Just close yours eyes and think of this the next time you listen to that track Guys. :-)

Peace,
Andrew.




Doogyrev Wrote:
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> It would be great to have a lyrics page on here.
> I don't know how it sits with copyright issues as
> there are a number of songs based on trad stories
> and other old folf songs. It would be great to
> read what changes you've made in lyrics Jim from
> original versions. Plus my daughters fav song in
> the whole world is your Silver Dagger (despite it
> being tragic!) and I can't quite make out all the
> words when I sing it to her haha! :)]]> Valentine The Forum Wed, 09 May 2012 17:32:26 +0100 http://www.jimmoray.co.uk/phorum/read.php?2,2668,2668#msg-2668 http://www.jimmoray.co.uk/phorum/read.php?2,2668,2668#msg-2668 Doogyrev The Forum Wed, 09 May 2012 08:54:55 +0100